tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post1303665644717530073..comments2024-01-08T14:54:50.575-05:00Comments on Bibliophile By the Sea: Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother; Amy Chua(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-73895107216343678022012-02-18T22:11:46.858-05:002012-02-18T22:11:46.858-05:00I am reading this soon - it was nominated for the...I am reading this soon - it was nominated for the memoir category of the Indie Lit Awards. <br /><br />I was raised by fairly strict parents who were determined to instill a work ethic in my brother and me. Although I am grateful for everything my parents did for me, living with all that pressure was difficult at times. I am interested to see how I react to this book.Booksnychttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11197753056299399065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-36137523772355178892012-02-10T12:09:29.102-05:002012-02-10T12:09:29.102-05:00I had friends in high school who had parents like ...I had friends in high school who had parents like this one. I have to say, they all turned out to be really successful, happy people. Yes, their childhood and teenage years were somewhat traumatic with the numerous piano lessons, extra tutoring sessions and having to miss out on football games and fries with blue cheese dressing at the local hang out, but now, they are so glad that they had parents who were so strict. <br /><br />I could never be that strict with my own kids but my kids could easily use a bit more structure.Tihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00926060806244061354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-976015395680371112012-02-06T22:03:48.720-05:002012-02-06T22:03:48.720-05:00Arti, it was so great to read your comments on thi...Arti, it was so great to read your comments on this books, since you are a Chinese Mom. You raise an excellent point about her husband's success and smarts even though his parents were not strict and demanding.<br /><br />Thanks for taking the tine to comment.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-77398342569653224832012-02-04T23:09:02.689-05:002012-02-04T23:09:02.689-05:00Interesting that the author read it herself. Soun...Interesting that the author read it herself. Sounds like she wouldn't trust anyone else to do it ;) I was raising pretty strict and I hope to raise Gage in a similar way, only with a few changes. Pushing your kids to be the best they can be is different than raising them to be the best and it sounds like the author was only interested in the best. But, hey, as a new parent I learned fairly early on that I shouldn't judge another's parenting style lest mine be judged!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-10403274508575049962012-02-04T19:01:16.462-05:002012-02-04T19:01:16.462-05:00Thank you for a comprehensive review and evaluatio...Thank you for a comprehensive review and evaluation of the book, ie, giving the memoir 4/5 and parenting model 1/5. ;) I've read the book too, mind you, I myself am a Chinese mom, but no tiger. I was aware of Chua's previous publications (history/political) so was quite interested in this book. But after reading it I was quite surprised by her 'method'. Like her, I'd believed in the potential of my son, but unlike her, I'd strongly valued exposing him to an all-round education, yes, including drama and theatre, and the social aspects of growing up by encouraging him to hang out with friends. With science and technology so dominating in our society, that's why all the more I'd motivated my son to pursue the humanities and the arts... He's now in professional school after graduating top of his class in college.<br /><br />A major argument against the 'Tiger Method': Simple, just look at her husband Jed. He's also 'successful', isn't he, according to Chua's standard of measurement. Why doesn't she look at <em>his</em> upbringing and see why someone with a mother who used the laissez-faire method can also bring up a high achiever, law professor, a published novelist? <br /><br />I'd also question her definition of "success"... only the top. While reading the book, I found the absence of values such as character building, humility, faith, compassion... Further, considering both herself and her husband have books to sell, I've this to say: bad publicity is good publicity.Artihttp://rippleeffects.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-951766218255080982012-02-04T18:40:20.653-05:002012-02-04T18:40:20.653-05:00This is a great blog for anyone who wants to know ...This is a great blog for anyone who wants to know about this topic. Thanks for sharing such a nice information to everyone.MDMAhttps://www.buzz-wholesale.com/glossary/MDMAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-44644585018891403732012-02-04T18:10:51.397-05:002012-02-04T18:10:51.397-05:00Absolutely Diane, A blend of West and East is bett...Absolutely Diane, A blend of West and East is better. Amy is overdoing it. But did you see the opening quotes on the book? She said it was a story about her family, and Supposed to be a story about Chinese Parenting better than the West, instead she was humbled by her 13-year-old. Looking at it this way, Amy is sharing her experience, it's up to us to make the deduction. I read this last August but didn't review it. I'll try to re-read it again. Thanks for the review!JoVhttp://www.bibliojunkie.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-36158521206221508582012-02-04T15:39:03.427-05:002012-02-04T15:39:03.427-05:00I definitely want to read this one!I definitely want to read this one!Meg @ A Bookish Affairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15634397276714805455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-30232761074295774922012-02-04T13:16:19.876-05:002012-02-04T13:16:19.876-05:00Diane: I am sort of sorry that I didn't press ...Diane: I am sort of sorry that I didn't press my kids harder...They are doing fine but still I feel I was too modern in my approach, maybe...Harveehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03490108303790217277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-56914090535779625232012-02-04T12:07:23.500-05:002012-02-04T12:07:23.500-05:00I hear you Alyce, American parents can be too lax ...I hear you Alyce, American parents can be too lax in wanting to be more of a friend than a parent at times. She, however, just didn't give her girls the option of doing anything she didn't see as worthwhile -- friends interrupted their rigorous routine.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-68263424227994934632012-02-04T12:04:47.772-05:002012-02-04T12:04:47.772-05:00Annoy yes, but still worth reading....try it.Annoy yes, but still worth reading....try it.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-58967695805496187732012-02-04T12:04:15.212-05:002012-02-04T12:04:15.212-05:00I know, I think it's fine to encourage you kid...I know, I think it's fine to encourage you kids to try harder and do a bit more, but the way she drove these kids without any real choices for them -- seems just wrong. Love to see how they will raise their own kids some day.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-8377145760456467142012-02-04T12:01:53.486-05:002012-02-04T12:01:53.486-05:00JoAnn since you are the mom of girls as well, I...JoAnn since you are the mom of girls as well, I'd love to hear what you have to say about this one. See if the library has the audio!(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-17528686402093047402012-02-04T12:00:26.309-05:002012-02-04T12:00:26.309-05:00Staci, if you like audio books you should try to g...Staci, if you like audio books you should try to get this one from the library.....unbelievable.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-92233654345840880552012-02-04T11:59:41.768-05:002012-02-04T11:59:41.768-05:00Lisa....you uttered my sentiments exactly! Thank y...Lisa....you uttered my sentiments exactly! Thank you(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-20365204730868854192012-02-04T11:56:16.192-05:002012-02-04T11:56:16.192-05:00I've read enough excerpts from this to know th...I've read enough excerpts from this to know that reading it would really just tick me off. I am all in favor of high expectations for your kids. I am all in favor of helping discipline and hard work. But you can push too hard -- who wants to take all the fun out of life for your kids? (And for yourself - it sounds like an exhausting way to parent.) I would not want my kids to look back on their childhood and remember nothing but being forced to study and practice and being denied all of the fun things that their friends (if they were allowed to have any) enjoyed. I think she's really an example of taking a good idea TOO far.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07315622067612799162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-65627725336185572852012-02-03T23:25:19.307-05:002012-02-03T23:25:19.307-05:00Kathy, I loved for you to read it and give us your...Kathy, I loved for you to read it and give us your take.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-71038546065356792062012-02-03T23:23:59.195-05:002012-02-03T23:23:59.195-05:00Me too Kaye -- too many choices and peer pressure ...Me too Kaye -- too many choices and peer pressure and bullying is a huge problem for those kids who don't fit the mold of the typical teen.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-17236605848485039122012-02-03T23:22:05.197-05:002012-02-03T23:22:05.197-05:00You make some excellent points. I think parents w...You make some excellent points. I think parents were more strict 75++ years ago, when families were often larger, money tighter, etc. At least this is what I was led to believe by people from that generation. It was also a simpler time when moms often stayed home, families ate all of their meals together etc, but when (2) parents work, things are different and rules tend to loosen up it seems in some cases.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your thoughts today.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-32954891372578713032012-02-03T23:16:44.005-05:002012-02-03T23:16:44.005-05:00I felt bad for these kids kids.I felt bad for these kids kids.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-9069686762611011762012-02-03T23:16:03.365-05:002012-02-03T23:16:03.365-05:00I'd love your take on this one. I believe the...I'd love your take on this one. I believe their needs to be a combination of both choices and limits that need to be decided by parent AND child.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-9114266112292963012012-02-03T23:13:47.822-05:002012-02-03T23:13:47.822-05:00I wonder what the incidence of peer pressure, bull...I wonder what the incidence of peer pressure, bullying, and even suicide is for these children who are not allowed to have friends or do the things other kids their age are doing?(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-82980488680212377702012-02-03T23:10:56.059-05:002012-02-03T23:10:56.059-05:00We see that at our college. When a kid had his cel...We see that at our college. When a kid had his cell phone stolen, he contacted his mom to call us to report it, when he was right in the library. Some parents do too much.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-82522165135447164172012-02-03T23:08:59.071-05:002012-02-03T23:08:59.071-05:00Yep, I hear you and that's why the library au...Yep, I hear you and that's why the library audio satisfied my curiosity and didn't cost me a dime.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7964305665370254420.post-32673283006377544162012-02-03T23:07:49.951-05:002012-02-03T23:07:49.951-05:00I wasn't a strict parent, and my children did ...I wasn't a strict parent, and my children did well in school and never got in trouble. Maybe it was luck, but i prefer to think of it as a mutual trust that made it all work out.(Diane) Bibliophile By the Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519875632878992728noreply@blogger.com